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Unequivocally, we re not talking about a shutdown nou. it s not a good thing. even nut gingrich, the architect of the shutdown in the 90s says it s not good. it makes one wonder are the others speaking in a set or tone that they can use as an option and that that would be disastrous for this country and the economy. i think if the cliff negotiations taught us anything, you can t listen to the hardline luster this early in the game. if you ll look at how close we came with the last stand off, everybody takes their hardlined positions. mcconnell is not going to go out there on the lamb and shut down these hard liners at this point. he s going to want to go in there with a strong of position as he can, making as big of ....