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An under 62. you say those are things we should be able to keep and in normal times we should, but everything is vulnerable right now and we have to go try to fix that. but it is what was in front of us and we don't have any options of walking away and going into a shutdown again. >> graham and ayotte, they say if there is anybody we should not cut it is the military. >> but with this being said, that is one of the things worked out between the democrats and republicans and for a 333 vote in the house and i don't think we have a chance to amend anything. so do you want to go through a shutdown...

Because they didn't want to go through that shutdown process again. >> i think you are right on that score. i think also, though, president obama understands what david axelrod just said, which is chaos in washington, chaos driven governance in washington hurts both sides. so it will be fascinating to see how republicans leaned up on this deem. let's go to tom col burngs he's at the u.s. capitol. whenever i hear somebody saying we are taking the sequester limits off anything, it makes me very nervous. it's the first time in a long time the federal government has held itself to some limits. >> ...

Wildfire, everything was -- >> it was like an earthquake. >> it hit like a ton of bricks. one of the things it showed in terms of policy, something about the shutdown process has made obama care more popular. last month, 31% of people thought it was a good idea. now 38% of people think it's a good idea. people who used to like the idea of maybe shutting down the government even as a way of trying to defund obama care no longer like that idea. do poll results like that, and the way these negotiations have gone thus far mean that, actually, the ongoing discussions here and the ongoing fight is n...

Senate is recessed. i think the court is going to have to say, you may want the court to be in recess when you say it is, mr. president, but that's something the court has to decide. it's not up to you to make up the rules as we go. >> we got confirmation from the court that's going to continue operating during the government shutdown. we understand they're going to continue at least through this friday. what do you think are the odds that they barrel through regardless of funding issues? >> the judges all keep getting paid, the congress can't stop paying judges so i think we'll see the courts...

Came out of the trump campaign. remember, the president last week promised a bill of love to save the d.r.e.a.m.ers. the trump campaign released an ad of hate. i think you would call it an ad of hate tonight. aimed at undocumented immigrants in this country. and, remember, the cause of all of this is the inability on the part of the white house and members of congress to craft a bipartisan solution for those d.r.e.a.m.ers. the d.r.e.a.m.ers are kid who's were brought to the united states through no fault of their own. yes, they may be undocumented, but they're not, you know, undocumented immig...