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Diplomacy during the entire trump administration. you have donald trump talking tough and tweeting and all sorts of military things going on. and then you have this side channel where there is discussions between the south korea and north koreans, our ally in south korea wanting to have talks with north korea and the idea that the vice president might entertab -- entertain the notion of meeting a north korean delegation at the olympics. the two don't go hand in hand. but i guess that is the way diplomacy works. >> it is from time to time. and i think the thing we ought to focus on at this mome...

Nelson, joe lieberman all leaving us. >> olympia snow has been pointed saying she feels being driven out by washington. in some of these cases are are other reasons why some moderates you're seeing lugar, would be an example of that right now, he has his own state specific issues. he's been there for 36 years. i think that -- i think there is a general sense that moderates can't survive and there is a fear on the part of the establishment after the 2010 cycle of openly trying to defend some members of the establishment. we saw this last week with some defenses of lugar that were taken through ...