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Initial rollout has been improved. joining me now, ezra klein, "washington post" columnist and msnbc policy analyst. ezra, before today's hearing we had the secretary calling the website launch flawed, calling it unacceptable. she announced three different steps to move forward and they included having the inspector general review the sight's development, create and appoint a chief risk officer, update and expand employee training. do you think that's going to be enough to prevent the problems, and also to reinvigorate an american crowd that needs to find health care? because it's not so much ...

Enough information in the system. the point being that is a fair debate that is ongoing. our mandate was to deal with the issue of inside the four walls of the classroom, the school property, for safety. you can have your background checks. you can have all kinds of side issues or gun control will not make a difference for the safety in the classroom because you've always got vulnerabilities there. >> but if fewer people get access to those guns because of more thorough background checks, that would protect kids. >> well, that's a debatable point first of all. >> why is it debatable if you mak...

You kind of do research, you see where the majority is, and then you position a product accordingly. i look at chris christie, okay? a guy who is in a blue a state as there can be. it's dark blue. he's got a 70%-plus approval rating. >> by the way, 69% approval rating among people of color. >> yes, okay. thank you. even better said. i don't get why -- where the hostage is, where the gun to the head -- horrible, horrible pun -- that republicans don't make the move. why -- who's holding them prisoner? it is very clear. the numbers say you don't have to be a hero right now to let go of some of th...

San santa, i understand you don't like to say happy holidays. >> i can't find any reference that santa has said anything other than merry christmas. >> what do you make of the political correctness of our culture? >> you have got the biggest belt buckle i've ever seen. >> i'd like to say that the el vs got the idea from elvis. >> so they're in denial. they're arguing about side issues. i mean, it is amazing. >> yeah, look. ultimately, they want to see their elected officials in washington get to work and not really engage in the side shows. republicans are likely to pay a larger political pric...

The more we debate these side issues, the more we take away stuff that we're better at, we're screaming at every poll. the voeters are not confused. this is the election they want and i think the traditional kickoff, is now. the conventions. >> i think the president is trying to turn this into a value selection. there's some people that argue, and i think mike might be one of them. i think the democrats have turned this in a segmented way. how do they take his economic argument and turn it into a value's argument rather than just a business lead on the economy.