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The election turns into a value selection. that's what the democrats are -- >> juan: i think the evangelicals, i wonder at what point to the evangelical saying this is total corruption in terms of our morals. >> dana: the evangelicals are not going to save you. >> juan: the funny thing about what giuliani said last night on laura ingraham, man, i've got lots of experience. i have listen to for the home hours of mob tapes. wait a second. i thought you are in trump's side. >> jesse: he was responding to what lanny said. he said only people like that who talk in cash or mobsters. >> juan: guess w...

The more we debate these side issues, the more we take away stuff that we're better at, we're screaming at every poll. the voeters are not confused. this is the election they want and i think the traditional kickoff, is now. the conventions. >> i think the president is trying to turn this into a value selection. there's some people that argue, and i think mike might be one of them. i think the democrats have turned this in a segmented way. how do they take his economic argument and turn it into a value's argument rather than just a business lead on the economy.