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Campaign against u.s. ambassador controversy that we are marie yovanovitch. discussing today. in 1989, a state official told the pro russian president who was run out of kiev in 2014 had her although she had done let the russian armed forces nothing wrong president trump lost confidence in her. with the side lining of deteriorate to the point of ruin. in response to the russian invasion, the if you ukrainan quattrocchi vi authorities with an amazing outpouring of support from regular ukrainian people rebuilt quattrocchi e yovanovitch was set for a channel for the inauguration now serving as th...

Presidents, ten secretaries of state from both parties. i've seen a lot of highs and lows in american foreign policy, as you have, over recent decades. but i've never seen anything quite like this. i didn't write those words lightly. but i'm deeply worried about the hollowing out of the state department and american diplomacy. i'm deeply worried about the side lining of career expertise today. >> to that point, this is mick mulvaney in the briefing room yesterday. >> elections have consequences. foreign policy is going to change from the obama administration to the trump administration. and wh...

You know, trump and his associates would say that's good, that's what we want to do, we want to get it out of the hands of those people. but most members of congress will see them as the experts on this issue and by side lining somebody with so much experience you're trying to basically make the decision making process a lot easier and smoother to get what you want done. >> paul cane of "the washington post" thank you very much for your reporting. and joining me now is one of the reuters reporters who broke those big stories on who's funding redau funding rudolf giuliani. can you talk to us a ...

>> yeah, they have high confidence. >> right. and so they are side lining her so they can push out this kind of bogus story. >> yeah. and look, mattis and secretary of state pompeo, they have their interests, right? defense represent, diplomatic relationships. but jean ya has ankle will say what happens. >> right. and this gets the administration's attention. i don't know how they can't get expenses. >> i would say, don't forget, there is a huge collection station in saudi arabia and riyadh. it's it's a a very important post for ci oo, as we cio, as well. >> they didn't know him. this didn't s...

Person who used to hold his job, bob mueller, could be biased in the trump russia probe and arguing these attacks could give trump a plan b, that if he gets closer to the white house, there could be a plan to shut it all down by side lining bob mueller and pardoning trump's top aides. >> i'm not in the presses's head. if he wants to pardon people, he can pardon people. there's not a huge check on that. >> he can have a blanket pardon for everybody involved and say i pardon them all. case closed. >> unless a pardon is on the table no, defense attorney would have that ultra aggressive dismissive...