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The board. there is another swamp here and we have to be honest with ourselves and our audience and everyone here which is that there's a swamp going on with the commercial interest of rudy giuliani, victoria, charles and there's another side to this. >> are you saying rudy giuliani as part of the swamp. >> on this, yes. he's going on trying to make business deals out of the ukraine situation. he's trying to make money off his relationship with president trump. i don't like that. >> truly has an average american, not a pond and in any way, we appreciate it when folks like you say something lik...

There is another swamp here and we have to be honest with ourselves and our audience and everyone here which is that there's a swamp going on with the commercial interest of rudy giuliani, victoria, charles and there's another side to this. >> are you saying rudy giuliani as part of the swamp. >> on this, yes. he's going on trying to make business deals out of the ukraine situation. he's trying to make money off his relationship with president trump. i don't like that. >> truly has an average american, not a pond and in any way, we appreciate it when folks like you say something like that beca...