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Their poverty stricken conditions? >> only if you are thinking about consequences. but the president clearly thinks in terms of bluster and opening bits. these are all negotiations tactics. i'm sure mark short would say that facts matter and words matter. but there is a sidestep that says not so much to this president. that's a slippery slope. what jewelry's article points out is the administration is thrown into chaos because at the end of the day they know they don't have a plan. they aren't stats and facts. when the vice president of the united states comes up, he's undercut by the presiden...

Of family that are fans of the show. thanks, ari. >> you're a funny guy. >> thank you. >> a lot of your stuff is not political. why go political here? what are you trying to say? >> i think everything is political now. think in years p especially when it came to the holiday table, you can kind of sidestep politics and pivot into other things like football. can't do that anymore. tv? you can't really get into that too much. so, you know, i just feel like it's permeated kind of every layer that we have. i was actually after the election, after that thanksgiving, my mom and my brother and i got i...

They draft off the cover. and they get the man through. you played that clip from the judge. really fascinating thing going on is judge kavanaugh made his case with his wife sitting next to him on fox news, put an op-ed in "the wall street journal" explaining his case. the president goes on that show on fox news explaining. you just have this siloing of opinion that is a side-step and end-around the actual discourse in america. i do think -- >> part and parcel of the trump administration -- >> and it worked and everything we've seen, this has been an extremely effective strategy to jam a guy t...

Backlash if you don't take a stand and then you fear the backlash from the people that you do want to take a stand. >> first of all as a business owner you can't avoid this topic. it's not one that you'll be able to side step. and in some ways it's getting much more pronounced because through social media my ability to influence isn't based on a capital campaign. i don't have to pay folks to get out and protest. i can do it very effectively just online. so my advice to most business owners is prepare for this. talk about it. have the conversation at least internally and decide where you want t...

Do with russian collusion. >> very interesting and significant indeed. good reporting as usual. jeff sessions resisting a lot of pressure to appoint a new special counsel to investigate allegations of misconduct within the fbi and the justice department. sessions opting instead to name a federal prosecutor to look into conservative claims of anti-trump bias. let's go to our justice reporter working this story for us. laura, tell us about sessions' announcement a little while ago. >> reporter: sessions has managed to side-step a growing chorus of calls from republicans on capitol hill who wan...