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The moment that in particular that you and your team are working on. what's the problem in ohio? what have they done, other than ignoring an actual commission that was set up to do it. what's the net effect? >> ohio is is a really interesting example that you can set up really good rules, but it does matter who's in charge. so in ohio, what we saw was an energized electorate past reforms, and 2018 with respect to the congressional maps. and a republican-controlled legislature and republican statewide elected who simply ignored what the voters asked them to do and sort of manipulated the proces...

Drumroll, one competitive seat. paul waldman of "the washington post" described what's happening here as the redistricting apocalypse. if this continues, we can kiss democracy as we know it good-bye. joining me now is marena jenkins, the litigation and policy director for the redistricting committee. thank you for joining us. i just want to start with something basic. when i've had this conversation with people who don't follow redistricting well or people who are not from the united states, they're a little puzzled by the way this works. is there a flaw in the system where the party in contro...

Way for a partisan overhaul and republican legislatures are the biggest culprits. redistricting is a routine process that comes up every ten years to make sure that each district accurately reflects the updated populations in the area. but as my colleague jane tim puts it, in an increasingly polarized country, the process has become a partisan death match. just look at what's happening in texas. out of the 150 seats in the texas house, only six of them are within seven points or closer, according to the princeton redistricting project. six of them are likely to be competitive in an election. t...