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And ivanka trump, so funny to watch them deflecting nordstrom and kellyanne talking about buying her huff and ivanka has given up her business and put it aside and moved her family to washington for this reason, to talk about building a platform for women. so i just thought it was such an unfortunate side track when they all were talking about what nordstrom was doing because actually what she wants to do is really productive and necessary. >> this is another example. this is sort of inner white house chaos, john heilemann, that you take the president's daughter, who is working up to this meet...

Like a particular thought that people have, so we have seen this happen and we are going to see it happen again. >> it's funny. on the surface, they are trying to make some sort of or hold up a moral code. you dig deeper and the hacker at least says that they are taking issue with this $19 fee to delete all the personal information that website is charging users if they have a, i don't know moral conflict and say i have to take all my information offline. they are going to charge that user $19 to do so. you and i both know just because you delete something offline doesn't mean it's gone foreve...

Unsolicited but embarrassing at the very least. >> and he is not a lobbyist but it is as if a lobbyist had an in side track to someone going to be the president of the united states and she's passing it on to the diplomats who seem to be just roomers or just plain wrong. >> that is right. and on some occasions she noted that some of the information that she was looking at seemed plain wrong. but she did often pass it along. and one of the things about the information he passed along, it wasn't vetted. if you are getting action ses -- access to the secretary of state, a lot of that information ...

Really just more about being a dog whistle for base. >> they're fuzzy on the details. >> that's a problem here. >> right, right, right. that's kind of the crux of it. they haven't been specific about what high crimes and misdemeanors the president may have committed. they're also unclear about the process they would use to actually impeach the president. i have to think that for some people, you know, they really do believe this. but it is used as a political ploy some some instances. this goes back to the presidency of george bush. we heard a lot of the same -- it's almost the exact same sort...

Honestly there is political will do do that? >> i think the republicans how to say in terms of dealing with the president. he won reelection and 230 house members won reelection on the premise of not having tax increases and not bringing in obama care. and people are beginning to realize the massive expenses and regulations and distorting of obama care that obama will do. and so when it goes live in the fall of 2013 it will crush the economy. side track the worst parts now rather than waiting until it smashes the economy. >> there is it a lot of talk republicans caving in to pressure on the ta...