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Worked a lot of informants -- they ran him pretty aggressively and came up with nothing. >> richard, bobby said they were aggressive at the trump folks. a quote from the "new york times" that caught our eye. listen to this. mr. papadopoulos relied he had no insight into the russian campaign despite being told that the russian had dirt on mrs. clinton: would you feel the same way you do right now, i know you don't agree with some of the previous assessment. what if this was the obama campaign and the fbi was pushing informants to gather information on that campaign? wouldn't you look at that si...

Doing there? what do you make of it, sir? >> it's not a surprise since the republican shut down the house committee on intelligence investigation revelations along these lines are happening on a weekly basis. i think it indicates to me that a lot of people lied to us in their testimony, it's further evidence that the transcript should be released so the american public can make that choice and help them understand what's taken place. i also think it calls into question the testimony of a lot of other folks who should be brought back, mr. cohen, mr. nix, aaron prince. mr. nader was there with h...

Side ways. through your neck. we're human beings. as people of color, as black and brown people, your fury if it comes out in a real way, there are real consequences. >> there's one person i think we are both in competition to be president of our fan club is michelle obama. >> oh, yeah. she's amazing. for me it felt like she started a dialogue that had not been opened to have a black woman, to have her name be preceded by lady and first in and of itself. i heard angela davis say that and it just reverberated through me. in and of that, that held

>> it comes out in very weird side ways. through your neck. we're human beings. as people of color, as black and brown people, your fury if it comes out in a wrong way, there are real consequences. >> there's one person i think we are both in competition to be president of our fan club is michelle obama. >> oh, yeah. she's amazing. for me it felt like she started a dialogue that had not been opened to have a black woman, to have her name be preceded by lady and first in and of itself. i heard angela davis say that and it just reverberated through

Have unusual concerted coordination with the team. nikki haley as an example. normally, you can say it is nitpicky. they get wired crossed. trump is side ways. but it matters now because they have to all be on the same page. how big a concern? >> larry walked back his comments in a self is depricating way. he took the hit for what he said. he got it wrong and he knitted he got it wrong. things did change from what nikki haley thought would be the case. who changed it? i don't know. but we suspect the president had a different point of view once this matter came to a head. i don't see this as a...