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Propaganda and recruit new members. it's also a way that isis can secretly wire money or carry on private text messaging. >> so i'm going to say, "hello" and send. so it's just like a conversation. >> since the attacks in paris, telegram has taken action blocking hundreds of isis channels. it's a step, but private encrypted messaging between members has not been affected. for u.s. intelligence officials, encryption is of grave concern. but to privacy activists, it is a necessary reaction to the kind of mass surveillance programs former nsa staffer edward snowden revealed. >> end mass surveilla...

That snowden's likes have ir rep problem blee harmed intelligence gathering. >> it did a lot of damage to our signal capability intelligence, specifically in counterterrorism, regrettably. the terrorists really went to school on the revelations about our tradecraft tactics and techniques. >> encryption and mass surveillance will remain controversial issues but neither changes the fundamental fact that information in the u.s. flows freely. >> the thing that makes us so competitive and so powerful in a modern world, which is basically the networking of information and the way that we flow data b...