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Because what happens when you kick someone out of your space, now you lose an opportunity to be engaged in that space. that said if they are going to stay, could we get a sill bis, can we get. some reading, it's a university. let's engage. we don't do much. we read books, we talk about things and try to intervene ideas. >> you're making a great point. on the one hand he's saying zero tolerance for that racist bigotry. if e he doesn't do this first act, there's no reaction and we have this conversation. but when you teach classes here, we are challenging the bias and the white supremacists unco...

We're doing and go get the wipes and deal with this. i think it's really important that universities are places of intellectual life. we have to become multicultural ambassadors and students of color, you know how much time it's taking from them to write their papers to do the research. there's a loss of intellectual time. i think we need to rethink some of the logics here and really -- i want them to wear white arm bands and have study groups. >> i want them to have a sill bis. >> i want them to say to white students, you need to talk and figure out your stuff. we're here, but we're not going...