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My house someone sees me as a black woman regardless how i i see my myself don is a black man about a kari is a black bhan you have the luxury walking out of house just being american. >> you don't have to i think about this you do do not have to think about it that my friend is position of privilege when you have the opportunity to hear. >> simone simone jefferiry i think this is the conversation that this is the gap in america that we have today. because there are so many people who have the racial blind spots. jeffrey, genuinely does not -- does not believe does not believe that anything he...

President kennedy is was it necessary was it necessary to make that comparison because you can compare a lot of people just like sean spicer did when he compared made the hit letter comparison was it necessary jeffrey do you understand was it necessary. >> you think it was necessary. >> you conhave made your point. >> sure. >> it's a tactic. it's a tactic it's a color blind tactic. strategy. >> we don't live in a kplor blind society go on go ahead. >> if i may this conversation. >> that's what i'm working everyday. >> this conversation is allisoning my heart goes out to simone and family and p...

I'm wearing blue ininsulting when you stating something that is -- that is not -- that is not in reality and we're sitting here. >> don you have to make it reality. >> ermgts. >> that's what dr. king was about. making it possible. >> dr. king means -- dr. king means something different to the people sitting here than he meant to you. i wasn't just a tactic for us. he is a real person who helped me to be able to get here and simone to be able to sit here. >> yes, yes. >> bakari and sit mother salennena and you give some reckless kpards. >> it is not reckless. >> good night. >> you should not ju...

But i don't see the comparison at all. >> jeffrey i'll give you the last word on this. >> i see the comparison with everything you've said. the american revolution, stopped the british government in its tracks it uphended thing think the above the tea party so too the civil war countless other movements that was the point that is the objective. the strategy is an old one dr. king used it he wasn't the first he is not going to be the last he hasn't been the last. people in the pro-life movement try and use this shutting down abortion clinics. i mean the objective is to so disrupt that you get t...

People of all colors who lost health care. >> lost health care on. >> no with unis going to tell you obamacare is perfect things need to change bef to build on the success people have to be willing to come to the table we cannot play with people's lives here that is exactly what's ha happening right there right now on this program. >> absolutely not. i mean, you're making this all up from -- you know there is example after example this is a strategy. everyone. >> did you take in mind when you made the comments jeffrey did you take in mind that there are people out there that simone feel like s...