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Lower the rates for everybody, open up, take away these regulatory roadblocks to drilling in the united states. so we get more energy. they don t have the loopholes but we all have lower rates. again you can do this in a couple of sheets of paper and we all come out ahead but he won t do it. martha: you say you think it is going to come up in the 2012 election? absolutely. martha: which gop candidate do you hear speaking your language you think may be willing to be bold on this issue? well, i m looking at governor perry of texas. i think he is certainly moving in the radical simplification direction. other candidates like jon huntsman have done the same thing. and so i think the movement started. and the fact that democrats on that presidential commission a year ago signed on at least to the idea of simplification, they didn t go as far as a flat tax but at least they got the idea we have to dejunk this tax code, i think it will be a real groundswell. martha: we will see. steve for ....

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