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Would go down. that's how you get deficit savingings. >> you don't believe that the president let the debt commission @ altar and stranded bowls and simpson . >> no, i don't feel that. >> they feel that. >> i don't think simpson or bowles would say that. >> i talked them both. they feel that way. let me finish the point. the president indicated he would embrace most of that. it is when boehner walked away because craziys in the republican party wanted -- >> crazies in the republican party. all right. >> let me finish the point. the simpson bowl's report called for tax revenue increases . repub...