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Authority to spend this money if not appropriated by congress. bill: sarah hall ingram is in the middle of all this mess with the i.r.s. in cincinnati, she was supposed to run all this. >> that is a big problems. the republicans know who this woman is. do you think they want to fund a new agency at the i.r.s. that is being headed up by the same person who was in charge of all the abuses that took place? i don't think that is going to happen. bill: they call that a sticky weubgt. steven moore, strang you, "wall street journal," we'll talk to you later in the week. martha: we heard their defense...

Of the blue in cincinnati, decided to launch the massive national effort, release e-mai s . have lois learner answer a question. >> there is a big gap of e-mails out of benghazi. they released 100, but there were times when no one was e-mailing which seems preposterous. >> i think this will continue. the president and his people can make it simple by picking up the phone and saying, guys, release the documents, let's get this over and come clean with the american people. but he won't. because he can't. >> nice to see you, reince. >> nice to see you, fwrgreta. how can the irs be possibly trus...

Spiked. and you don't see a change there. >> they are politiclitolitical incapable or from ideology, we shouldn't have the irs be involved? >> we are currently in tremendous investigation on this we know it isn't just a few dumpy employees in cincinnati. >> u.s. higher up? higher up than lois lerner? >> there is evidence and information that they were told what to do from washington? >> does that include the white house, or not? >> we're in the process of finding these things out. in the middle of very intensive negotiations, and documents, everything, we've got very good vest gautiinvestigati...

Of the blue in cincinnati, decided to launch the massive national effort, release e-mai s . have lois learner answer a question. >> there is a big gap of e-mails out of benghazi. they released 100, but there were times when no one was e-mailing which seems preposterous. >> i think this will continue. the president and his people can make it simple by picking up the phone and saying, guys, release the documents, let's get this over and come clean with the american people. but he won't. because he can't. >> nice to see you, reince. >> nice to see you, fwrgreta. how can the irs be possibly trus...

Yesterday, friday. there is a report out that actually there is evidence that i.r.s. was dictating what was going on in cincinnati. reuters is reporting that. the two cincinnati workers saying that yes, the i.r.s. was telling them in d.c. what to do. what do you think? >> i think that we will see more evidence coming out. this is not about the rule of law. this is about the obama administration trying to control the flow of information. i am sensing a pattern here between the i.r.s. scandal, the media tracking scandal, the n.s.a. now, you know, spying on the average americans. this is, this is...