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>> you are not using your money to affirm their lifestyle. you're giving them money to buy a house or buy a car. there's not religious about that. >> that's not affirming their lifestyle? not allowing them their lifestyle? >> kenji, what do you think about that? >> that's a lot different than going to their wedding and celebrating it. >> kenji, under this law if i'm a catholic loan officer candy s -- can i say i'm not going to give a loan? >> i think where this argument falls apart he's saying in his opinion this would not be a substantial burden. it's actually not his determination to make. w...

And all this law does, it says that before the government can put a burden on religion, a substantial burden on religion, they have to prove a compelling interest in doing so. and they have to do it in the least restrictive way. the law has been in effect since the 1990s. what we did the other day was put several tweaks to it. >> essentially the law is about churches or organizations. this allows individuals, small businesses, to basically -- to make decisions based on their religious beliefs. so again, what is this for? what in this law is preventing a catholic loan officer from refusing a lo...