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might flee or be dangerous, you would arrest them. but i think in the case of donald trump where everybody knows where this is coming, his lawyer would get a call, saying he's been indicted, when can he come in the next couple of days but he does have to get booked that has toby done, so i imagine it could be done with secret service present. >> that's msnbc legal analyst barb mcquade laying out what could happen if donald trump is indicted by the manhattan district attorney. it comes as trump's former fixer gives testimony to a grand jury and the woman he's accused of paying off mee...

Way to balance that, with the process so that we don't become the kind of culture that just assumes any allegation is true. so there is a balancing act here. >> and how do you do that? how do you do that? >> look, i don't know, but i will say, i mean i agree with so much of what you just said -- >> i want to be brutally honest. i don't want like your tv answer versus your private answer. i want your honest answer. >> look, my honest answer is if we don't make sincere contrition a part of our political culture, and if we don't judge people, not just by their worst moments but by the totality of...

Any disciplinary incidents behind bars. not having any fights. not having any contraband. not doing anything, you know, some of the other things prisoners do in their cells. he had no incidents. he got along well with the guards. he was a peace maker. he was a basketball coach. in every regard, a model prisoner. it's as if maybe he understood that it worked in his favor and his only chance of ever seeing the free light of day again was to be that model prisoner. whatever it is, sincere contrition, i do not know. i do know this is a race baiting narcissist who played the race card to win his ac...