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Democrats still own it, then you may get the reforms later on. people hypothesize about 20 million people losing medicaid and so on, but we know what is happening under the current system, the obama system. may be the democrats should own it. i think i am quoting the president who said, remember, he had a thought and put to the microphone and said, maybe this thing should just continue to be the democrats property and let them -- >> kennedy: and then it cannot go into a single-payer system, too much government involvement tanks the whole thing. >> bill: but there are bad consequences as trisha...

Health insurance. - >> isn't this the age-old story to say that once you put an entitlement program replace people then turned to it and become dependent on it in a way they might not otherwise have done? then you end up in a situation you are always in we have this exploding cost and people worried about losing it. and the result is you have this national debt through the roof and you can never seem to take it away. >> that is absolutely right. if you look at the way the healthcare has developed over the last 50 years in this country, it has taken a significant march to the left. the reason i...

Say let's, now you can buy health insurance. - >> isn't this the age-old story to say that once you put an entitlement program replace people then turned to it and become dependent on it in a way they might not otherwise have done? then you end up in a situation you are always in we have this exploding cost and people worried about losing it. and the result is you have this national debt through the roof and you can never seem to take it away. >> that is absolutely right. if you look at the way the healthcare has developed over the last 50 years in this country, it has taken a significant marc...

He's going to be doling them out over the next couple of days but i still think it's 60/40 against that that bill will past. >> i've heard that sentiment but i've also heard from someone who i respect a lot who says mitch mcconnell's going to get this through because republicansment to get on to tax are reeform. what part that? >> i think there's a good chance he's going to try to do everything he can and he wants to because they're in a great position to diminish the number of democratic senators in the 2018 elections but at the same time i think it's going ton difficult for him to do so so i...

Payer medicare for all health care and we urge the congress to take that up immediately. >> what do you see that's missing that you would like to see put in it. >> well, this bill has to get rejected in total. we now need to adopt a medicare for all, single payer system. we have to start from the position of the most popular government program in america is medicare. we have a single payer system in this country, it's called medicare. it is wildly popular for -- with seniors. we need to expand that to cover everyone in the country so that health care is a human right in this country, not a pri...