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And when those debates need to occur on a supplemental bill, then have that debate there. first and foremost, let's keep the lights on and move on to the continuation of the debate when it comes to the other writers. >> it sounds like you don't think any insistence on money for a border wall should be part of the budgetary process. >> i think the more we can keep this focused on numbers rather than idealogical positions on both sides of the aisle, i think it will bode well for the outcome next week. >> do you think that the white house's insistence that money for a budget wall -- excuse me, mo...