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Is bates telling the truth here? yes, it was in washington, d.c. i have got a certificate that he attended. and that the sheriff lectured there. so i if you was it with the maricopa county sheriff s department or just a sheriff from the department? just trying to understand what the knew what happens is. sher saying he absolutely did not train with the maricopa county sheriff s department. oh he didn t. sheriff arpaio lectured in washington, d.c. at a seminar and he attended that seminar with other law enforcement officers for training. well he said that he received training by the maricopa sheriff s department on response to active shooters. that is a quote from him in a statement. so we called them and they said that he didn t. well it was the sheriff himself and he gave lectures across the country. and mr. bates attended one of those a few years ago. so what i m saying is you said we learned today that he had misrepresented his training. how did you learn that with tha ....