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In the cockpit have noticed that you are on our flight. frankly, we both agree more with you than your partner, and we would be so honored, if you would join us in the cockpit for a bit of the flight. and gene knows that roger was really excited. he gets into the aisle and roger was a big guy then, he just kind of bounds down the aisle and gets really ready to knock on the door of the cabin, and, you know, the flight attendants are horrified and gene says, dear mr. ebert, we in the cockpit -- gotcha. >> and he finally tells gene siskel, you just don't like me. that relationship was absolutely ...

Thinking, did a guy go out with a chisel and steal this thing? >> from the day the chicago tribune made gene siskel its film critic, we were professional enemies. for the first time years, we knew one another, siskel and i hardly spoke. when gene and i were asked to work together on a tv show, we both said, we'd rather do it with someone else. anyone else. >> the name of our show is opening soon at the theater near you, two film critics talking about the movies, this is roger ebert in the chicago sun times. and right here is gene siskel from the "chicago tribune" and the channel 2 news. >> gen...

The cannes film festival. >> why? >> because it's too tough to take. >> the reason roger loved being on television is that at his heart, he really is a populist. roger believes that everybody ought to be able to get a movie. >> i think they were conscientious about doing what they could do as well as they could and as serious as they could. but invariably, a show like their show becomes a part of that mainstream system. >> this week "siskel & ebert" review arnold swars in "last action hero. >> and by in large, the purpose of mainstream reviewing is not just to value films that get multimillion...

Every article in it wants to be a meal, not a mcnugget. is anyone reading film criticism? it lacks punch, the clips, the thumbs. i simply don't want people to think that what they have to do on tv is what i am supposed to do in print. i don't want junk food to be the only cuisine at the banquet. et cetera. i really did sound angry there, but it seemed to me the siskel-ebert effect was that a film was either good or bad, and the rest didn't matter so much. >> i am the first to agree that the "siskel & ebert" program is not in-depth film criticism. as indeed how could it be? given our time const...

>> when foreman backs up and tries to make his big points about the establishment -- >> but there was something there. it was interesting to hear two people who knew what they were talking about talk about a movie. >> write of freedom, one of the new generation of west german directors -- >> roger loved the idea of being on public television. he had been on it before, on a show where he introduced films by ingmar bergman. it was awful. >> and in this movie, his name is spiegel, which is swedish for mirror. >> it was a deer caught in the headlines. >> what is elusion and who's being fooled by t...