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Using a meeting at the white house and taxpayer dollars in order to try to get a foreign government to benefit himself politically and help destroy his political rivals. you cannot do that in a president of the united states. that's not allowed in a democracy. what separates the united states from dictatorships is we don't allow the president to use powers for their own political benefit. if this isn't impeachable behavior, i'm not sure there is. >> i'd like to apologize, but this is the reality. this is how the information comes in and how we have to process it realtime. >> we're going to get...

National security benefit of the united states, not to be used for his personal political or financial gain. the president broke that covenant. >> how confident are you of that? >> i think the story is completely crystal clear. >> 100%? >> i think this testimony from over a dozen witnesses makes it clear that the president was using a meeting at the white house and taxpayer dollars in order to try to get a foreign government to benefit himself politically and help destroy his political rivals. you cannot do that in a president of the united states. that's not allowed in a democracy. what separ...

Majority. and rest assured the public will learn the facts. obviously responding to public criticism throughout this hasn't been a transparent process and this impeachment process has been done in secret. to that you say what? >> normally when you have a formal -- if this were formal ao*idsed the president would have his counsel there and bring in witnesses. the republicans would be able to bring in witnesses and open door and transparent. you could watch it realtime. part of what happens in this type of setting normally the american people get to judge the veracity and credibility of witnesse...

After time, cutake a full assessment. >> harris: you think this is a good one? >> you know, it is a risk. the kurds have been valuable allies to us, both during getting rid of saddam and after with isis, we cannot turn our back on the kurds. erdogan is on notice, if a hair is touched on a kurd, we will know about it realtime. >> harris: he will be dead first, though. they started air campaign yesterday after we were pulling out. >> right. but i think, i have to give the benefit of the doubt to the president and i hope and erdogan is coming to the united states, i think that is good thing. >> h...

Is the press using that against trump as if he is somehow responsible, increased by news worthy and heartbreaking photos? >> it is, we don't have photos of other 200 people who died in 2018, we don't hear from the media how a soft border is creating the crisis, they blame it all on trump and unfortunately when you have these heart rending situations and they don't report how organizations like doctors without borders are talking about how one-third of women who try to make the journey to the united states because we have not enforced our borders, they are being sexually assaulted. >> kathy, he...