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People invested time and money into trying to figure it out. the crowdstrike thing has been debunked. they have part of their ownership as ukraine but they're a california company. do you really believe that ukraine, not russia, was to blame for the 2016 interference? >> i believe, as you know, when the democrat emails were leaked before the convention, i came out immediately and warned the obama administration that this is russia and something had to be done about it stat. i've always thought it was russia. i'd love to see the fbi prove it was russia and prove that i was right, but just becau...

Russia and something had to be done about it stat. i've always thought it was russia. i'd love to see the fbi prove it was russia and prove that i was right, but just because russia did it doesn't mean ukraine didn't do it. i don't believe ukraine was messing around on the internet or doing cyberwarfare like the russians were. i know for a fact that they were -- that the leadership of the ukraine government at the time, the poroshenko government, was working through their embassy with hillary clinton and dnc operative alexander chalupa, and at the same time, a member of parliament very close t...