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York which invented it under, wait for it, u.s. attorney rudy -- >> giuliani. interesting. you think that sdny is not as powerful as special counsel? >> i think investigating the president they have less jurisdictional limits and it's much awkward or difficult for them to get their story they can only speak through indictments, as garret was saying. so if thaw can indict the president, that's sitting doj poli policy hoard how thaw can get a report to congress. >> that's got be to the last wrurd. investigations into russian interference are expanding on capitol hill. what to expect next. you'...

Full well and so does rudy jo e juligiuliani that in this volat political environment you can speak code, you can make references, and you can intimidate them and generate threats. it is just the kind of political climate we life in now. i think he has genuine reason to be concerned. >> what accommodations are you open to making for him on this, putting it under, taking it out of the public square? what acome daugss do you think are reasonable for his safety? >> i think it is still a desirable thing to have michael cohen testify in public under oath to try to tell us much of the whole narrativ...

Chief executives' intent. he doesn't get to do that. >> harris: that's andy mccarthy right there! a >> andy: that's what the memo says. it's a brilliantly-done memo, which is not surprising, because barr was the head of the office of legal counsel during the first bush administration. george h.w. bush's administration. those guys are the lawyers 'lawyers in the justice department. if you read this 20 page memo, it reads like an olc, office of legal counsel, justice department memo. it's actually a stellar piece of legal craftsmanship. >> melissa: what other things do you think they are going t...

Terms of meddling in our election and should want to know the answers. and the best way to know that is not by a transcript where you only read words, but where you see the body language and you can assess the credibility of a witness. it's much more compelling to see the testimony than to read it. >> charlie, trump caused quite a stir again yesterday by telling reporters that he'd be willing to talk to mueller under oath. take a listen. >> would you do it under oath, mr. president? >> you mean like hillary did it under -- who said that? >> i said that. would you do it under oath? >> oh, you s...

Bannon. he's a toxic figure. >> yep. joe? >> you know, mike barnicle, i don't know why they would have to go into his personal life and his -- and make personal attacks against a guy where sort of a he said she said in divorce documents when they have charlottesville. when they have the things that he printed at breitbart. if you want to make somebody toxic, there is no he said she said when you go to what he printed in breitbart, some of it under -- what he said -- and stated openly, anti semitic. >> doesn't this get back to what we've been talking about for days if not months. it's the fact ...