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Take a listen. >> now what we're facing is, u.s. forces in a -- trapped between a syrian russian army moving north to take on the turkish army moving south. i spoke with the national security team yesterday. we all talked on the phone. i've talked to the president, and he is concerned, and so last night, he directed that we begin a deliberate withdrawal of u.s. forces from the northern part of syria. >> you have that and also these pictures of empty fields where isis forces used to be held where they've potentially escaped. now this is a national security crisis for europe, the united states a...

Hearing from the neo con crowd is that our invasion of iraq and our staying in afghanistan for a long time is what started all this. tunisia and egypt and so forth. and that, to me, is preposterous. i think your formulation of it is probably more accurate than theirs. >> well, why is that preposterous? why would they make that case in the heat of the battle right now in your opinion? >> well, i think that's about like saying the reason we have more suicides at christmas is because santa claus wears red. it's absurd. there is no relevant connection and, in fact, i can make some pretty dire conn...

Be a little bit difficult right now given our previous policy. let me say, too, that what i'm hearing from the neo con crowd is that our invasion of iraq and our staying in afghanistan for a long time is what started all this. tunisia and egypt and so forth. and that, to me, is preposterous. i think your formulation of it is probably more accurate than theirs. >> well, why is that preposterous? why would they make that case in the heat of the battle right now in your opinion? >> well, i think that's about like saying the reason we have more suicides at christmas is because santa claus wears re...