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I think he got on monday a guarantee of some sort or at least a verbal assurance from putin that he would not be the cause or the origin of escalation. that's worth what it's worth, it's not a written guarantee of any sort but i think macron still thinks that there is a possibility for talks and that's a different tone coming out of paris for the moment to that coming out of london, for example. >> i thought it was not a coincidence that he also decided to take that -- this moment, this period, to announce a major new expansion of french nuclear energy. he has been talking about it, of course,...

Dialogue could only be sincere if there was no escalation. he has made that clear. i think he got on monday a guarantee of some sort or at least a verbal assurance from putin that he would not be the cause or the origin of escalation. that's for what it's worth. it's not a written guarantee of any sort but i think macron still thinks that there is a possibility for talks and that's a different tone coming out of paris for the moment to that coming out of london, for example. >> i thought it was not a coincidence that he also decided to take that -- this moment, this period, to announce a major...