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By having the meeting, itself, as you point out. this is what all north korea leaders wanted, three meetings, legitimacy from an american president it was not prepared. there was no rhetoric. we do not know what he is really offering and the treasury secretary repeated the phrase, de-nuclearization, our object siv de-nuclearization of the korean peninsula. >> that is a trap the korean peninsula means we eliminate our nuclear umbrella from our allies. we want him to give up his nuclear weapons, not for us to give up our security umbrella for japan. this shows you the lack of competence or famil...

The american president, has kim already won? >> like i said, you know, it depends on what we do now. we say let's step back, what work needs to be done, i tell you, you don't want to sit down with the leader of north korea and give him that victory unless you put the ground work in, unless your diplomats has negotiated things, what does it do to alines, non-proliferation? there are a lot of things, dozens and dozens of meetings, high level meetings that need to happen before this. >> de-nuclearization should be our policy? >> we say what policy is, i don't believe anybody believes north korea ...