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It's not about the country. it's about him and what's good for him. what milley was trying to do and mike pence is trying to do is say no, there's a process. that process is sacrosank. we have to stick with it. it's frightening to look back and see how close we came to a president demanding that be circumvented and there are people who had to say no. >> there's a thread through the trump presidency, whether he's calling them my generals or turning to the attorney general to be his personal lawyer or relying on other senior aides to do his work. i don't mean his work as in the president of unit...

Some of the testimony was combative. this is on the senate side on day two. what stood out most to you in terms of significance? >> the secretary reiterated what he said yet in terms of the defense of the biden administration and their decision to withdraw from afghanistan. as you heard him saying staying longer wouldn't have made the situation -- saying the processing for the siv process was sped up when senators asked why, he said it increased to 1,000 visas a week. he also discussed the fact that the situation on the ground, the u.s. is still in contact with those americans who are still th...

So he calls an extraordinary meeting of the national military command center, the pentagon war room. he brings the generals in, and the officials, according to woodward and costa. just remember he is not technically in the chain of command. he is an adviser to the president. and he tells the generals and the officials who run the war room, no matter who calls you, you got to let me know. here's what he says. quote, if you get calls, no matter who they're from, there's a process here, a procedure. no matter what you're told, you do the procedure, you do the process, and i'm part of the process....

Dynamics out there before. you're getting brand new details. i want to come back. we were talking about the revelation about general milley, america's top general saying i need to get the commanders together. i'm worried. he was worried that trump was going to try to do another rount and issue an order for military strikes in iran. if you get calls, he told them in a top secret pentagon meeting, no matter who they're from, there's a process here. there's a procedure. no matter what you're told, you do the process and procedure. i'm part of that procedure. the significance there, there will be ...

Summon either virtually or in person their top national security. that consultation can last thirty-seconds or minutes or hours. they'll provide the president with a list of options whether it's one nuclear weapon or an american strike. they can try to change the president's mind. there's a check and counter check with the pentagon itself before the process of launching nuclear weapons takes place. what i can't tell is whether milley is saying i have a veto over the president's decision which would be a problem, or whether he's saying don't let anyone say senior advisers at the white house try...