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>> i responded that night, it looked like the sniper had laid in wait inside this field and shot these people as they were coming across the lighted intersection. both the boys were shot even after they quit moving. they weren't wounds to the legs or the extremities. in shooter's talk, these were all like kill shots. >> i would like to talk to you about the salt lake shooting. that was august, 1980. >> uh-huh. >> why did you travel to salt lake? >> i've been there before back in 1975 and noticed a lot of mixing of the races. especially white with non-whites, it would be a good place to target....

Here. you're not trying to dismiss donald trump or saying you support donald trump. you're trying to explain what is going on here, a reason for his population. you talked about the linguistic kill shots. you talked about his vagueness. main stream media says donald trump doesn't have any meat on the proposals, he says, i'm going to hire the best team ever, they'll solve everything. you think vagueness is a strength. >> vagueness is a technique. >> i use it if you look at the " "dilbert" comic strip, his boss does not have a name so people can imbue the property they like best, and you don't g...

The two white girls they were jogging with escaped. >> i responded that night. it looked like the sniper had laid in wait inside this field. and then shot these four people as they were coming across the lighted intersection. both the boys were shot even after they had quit moving. they weren't wrounds to twounds or extremelies, these were like -- in shooter talk, these were kill shots. >> i'd like to talk to you about the salt lake city shooting. august of 1980. why did you travel there? >> i'd been there before in 1975. in subrogation. >> what is that? >> i saw two dudes jogging

Which was brillo's shots. so it was going to be very very difficult, to say the least, to prove a voluntary manslaughter when you have other officers who fired kill shots who weren't defendants when you only charge one officer. and now you're going to try to determine, well did he kill tim and melissa, or was it these other kill shots? i mean built into the prosecution is an inherent flaw. it's going to be very very difficult to get a conviction. the voluntary manslaughter right out of the box, was going to be very difficult. >> i've got just a quick question if you can answer it very quickly,...

Prosecutor's office engaged in any coercion. to be honest i don't understand that argument. if anything, you could argue this other officers involved could have been indicted in this case because as michelle indicated, this was about one officer who jumped on the car and fired 49d shots. that was outrageous -- 49 shots. that was outrageous. other officers discharged their weapon and made kill shots. they weren't indicted. and the officers didn't testify against each other. people pled the fifth. i don't think there was any coercion by the prosecutor's office. >> you're listing numbers. i want ...