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Responsibility is to americans but i wonder is a macro question if we are automating a lot of jobs and you just that we are going to, why do we need 1.1 million legal low skill workers everywhere and an unknown number of illegal ones? what are they going to do exactly? if jobs are going away why are we importing all these people? has anyone ever stopped to ask that question? >> net illegal immigration has been flat for a period of time. it's been going down under president trump with his rhetoric so i think long-term adult solutions. let us implement e-verify. let's get worker programs. long-t...

11 million or 12 million coming in now. the other rational says that people with a high school education, that is half of the legal flow, they're an enormous fiscal drain. people with that skill level in the modern american economy don't make much and they or their children qualify for a host of programs. right now about half of households headed by immigrants so the idea behind this is help the poor and let the taxpayers have a break. >> first of all, two things. first, industry after industry behinds on workers high skills and low skilled alike. and they would not be able to function without...

Hillary clinton wants to double down and make it more expensive and it's not going to work. >> how does she respond? >> she will have to communicate what she will do differently than what is done right now to keep these rates from going up. these are problems that both republicans and democrats have had since really early in the campaigns. donald trump has not been able to communicate clearly what he will do to decrease these rates or to replace obamacare after he repeals it if he wins. >> donald trump is better if the polls about the economy. we have these numbers in the economy with the midd...

Cents every day understand this stuff better than people in academia and people detached from the real world. these people have to make up the money somehow or they are going out of business. let's give everyone $15. let's give everyone $500 an hour. guess what, your business shuts down. and who suffers? low skill workers suffer and people are out of jobs and the prices of things go up to a point where your business doesn't sustain itself. people either won't go to you, or you won't be able to afford to keep your business open. but great point. what you said is the reason why candidates like d...

And the evidence is it does cost jobs. doesn't cost huge amounts of jobs. it cost jobs for low skill workers who are largely in eating and drinking and retail trade. and 500,000 jobs, that's about a year's worth of job growth in those industries. we can't afford to do that to a population that needs work and incomes. >> it's going to be very hard to get republicans to come around to this. we'll see if that's reflected on the hill. thank you both of you. you can watch the president's remarks on this very subject on the minimum wage from university of michigan at 3:00 p.m. live on this very ch...