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Disinformation and misinformation about validity of our democracy. he also talked about the reality of our democracy being us needing to be concerned, but the way that we get out of this is to ensure that we continue to tell the truth. if former president trump a week ago wants to say that he will be president in august, we have to say absolutely not, you are delusional, you are lying to your base, you are lying to the plead i media and we can't stand for it. >> and the president also in this fantastic conversation with anderson cooper talked about a turning point in his administration where h...

Majority, in this country, and white americans, to recognize that, look, you -- you can be proud of this country. and its traditions and its history. and our forefathers. and yet, it is, also, true that this terrible stuff happened. and that, you know, the vestiges of that linger, and continue. and the truth is, is that when i tried to tell that story, oftentimes, my political opponents would deliberately not only block out that story. but try to exploit it for their own, political gain. i -- you know, i tell the story, in the book, about the situation where skip gates, a harvard professor, wh...

Gates, a harvard professor, trying to get into his own house, gets arrested and unmasked about it. i don't know, not having been there and not seeing all the facts what role race played in that. but i think it's fair to say number one, any of us would be pretty angry. number two, that the cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home. subsequent polling showed that my support among white voters dropped more precipitously after that -- that should have been a minor trivial incident than anything else during my presidency. >> ...

Still is the embodiment of race. he is -- he was a president who just happened to be black. but his campaign and he knew if he went out there and talked about race all the time, he would lose out. when he talked about skip gates, he lost a certain segment of white america and never gained it back. he's keenly aware that he wrote about it in the book and he talked about it in this great interview with anderson cooper, but he talked about race with skip gates. he talked about race as he said in the interview with jeremiah wright but he also talked race when he went to selma, you know, with then ...

Us. and, you know, sometimes unconscious. but i also think that there are certain right wing media venues, for example, that monetize and capitalize on stoking the fear and resentment of a white population that is witnessing a changing america. >> let's bring in abby phillip, anchor of "inside politics sunday" and cnn senior political correspondent. so interesting to hear the former president basically say, look what happened when i tried. look what happened in that moment with the lowest of low bars. you know, when skip gates was arrested for trying to get swo into his own house. look what ha...