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York real estate sky onwas in the process of committing diplomacy, how does what he was accused of differ from a back channel communication as you have come to know it? >> well, back channel communications as people said this weekend have always been quite important, you know, whether it was john kennedy using his brother robert as a back channel to the russians -- but that was during their administration, not done secretly. and not done behind the backs of u.s. intelligence. i think the question here is did you have a back channel before you were president of the united states? before the adm...

So you know, there's a lot of different ways to communicate, back channel, you know, publicly with other countries. i don't see any big issue here relative to jerad. >> we have back channel communications with any number -- with a number of countries. so generally speaking about back channel communications, what that allows to you do is to communicate in a discrete manner. so it doesn't predispose you toward any sort of content of that conversation or anything. so no i would not be concerned about it. >> as you heard general mcmaster and secretary kelly over this weekend say, they are not conc...