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The usual working groups? >> i don't think you'll see it, they're spending money on television ads, broadcasting. i think you will see this micro targeted. >> how about going through pastors? >> i any you will see some of that. this is my -- >> that's, that's the key, you see some of these republican statements just last the president. the reason i think he has political potency through it is he made it clear. this is a balance. there's a religious liberty issue, a family issue, and civil rights issues. if republicans just say anti-gay, it will hurt them. he said people can disagree but this i...

The reason i think the president's position had political potency is because he made it clear in the interview and the course of evolving. there is a balance. there is liberty issue, family issues and civil rights issues. i think if people just talk about this as anti-gay, anti-equity, it will hurt them. mitt romney did something he doesn't normally do. he says, people can disagree with me, but this is my view. that goes to the view in chicago. this is not, as some people cast it, a slam dunk negative for the president. >> i think in a recent case, prejudice operating in this case and presiden...