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Neither is julian castro or kirsten gillibrand. kamala harris has law enforcement background. she's been a senator. she is worked on criminal justice reform. she brings, i think, to allow democrats what they see as someone who looks like she can stand on stage and go toe-to-toe with president trump. that's intangible, but i will say that just from people i've talked to so far she has run the best rule out of her campaign. >> harris: is it a missed opportunity -- and maybe she talked about this and i didn't see were to begin, but previously hadn't seen it -- that she doesn't jump in to the curr...

Finding a magic number, if you will, for a wall? i know nancy pelosi come the new speaker of the house, says no money for the wall. but calling it a slat system, having it built with american steel. how much of that is making a difference? real quickly. >> i think the democrats are at zero. the only conch dell not compromise their willing to accept is 100% of what they are asking for, as if they were of the government. you have a republican president, he republican-controlled senate for another democrats control the house but they are acting as if they control everything. they don't. while the...

Come across the board. >> harris: all right, just really quickly, when the president was considering the six different prototypes for the wall, the slat system was on that. we had a reporter down there, we featured it. we knew. this is not breaking news in that sense. it's fascinating that democrats are stuck on that point. but we will move on. so, democrats may pitch, mercedes, to the idea of more and more investigations with the president in the white house. what is the reaction from the white house on that? >> the president has made it very clear on the democrat side that he wants to work o...

Are making fun of a slat system. that is what it is. it's one of the companies that submitted it. the president liked that slat system. to call something else? >> i do, i think you're right. i think the semantics are important. certainly, border security. i've been to the border come i've seen it firsthand. my first session appeared, had the opportunity to see. i've seen the rugged terrain in arizona. i have seen the shallow river and the rio grande in texas. i've also seen where our wall works. but it's all about border security. it's all about technology, boots on the ground. the combination...