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Heroically fought against the idea of slavery including lincoln's original vice president who he should have kept on board instead of dumping him for andrew johnson. isn't it interesting that the people who are fighting against the teaching of history and calling it critical race theory and saying you are part of critical race theory which you're not that they don't think their kids will identify with the abolitionists. they think their kids are going to be sad because they'll identify with the oppressors and enslavers. what do you make of that? >> joy, i think you are revealing they don't eve...

>> after lincoln's assassination you have andrew johnson to office of president. and all that does is create turmoil in the u.s. because of johnson's approach to thing. brett: a congressional recess. johnson granted southern states amnesty and allowed them to hold election. >> reestablish a southern legitimacy. he is reestablish people with two characteristics, one, they were traitors, two many were slave holders. reporter: brett: leaders of the confederacy including vice president stephens were poised to join congress as democrats in good standing, this distress the nation's top general. >> h...

>> after lincoln's assassination you have andrew johnson to office of president. and all that does is create turmoil in the u.s. because of johnson's approach to thing. brett: a congressional recess. johnson granted southern states amnesty and allowed them to hold election. >> reestablish a southern legitimacy. he is reestablish people with two characteristics, one, they were traitors, two many were slave holders. reporter: brett: leaders of the confederacy including vice president stephens were poised to join congress as democrats in good standing, this distress the nation's top general. >> h...

Step up and revive a requirement which has been part of the curriculums in the past, we should teach sources in democracy and civics to every student enrolled in our institutions. >> ron, you say one of the great challenges, obviously, has to do with idealogical dust-ups that come along. seems to me some basic dialectical thinking as you go into these courses is a good way to frame it. yes, many of our founders were slave holders. our founders also created a system of government that has fed and freed more people than any other country on the face of this earth. so we know those two truths. no...

Arizona. >> and with mansion, he also has a lot of big donors but an oil man. he founded an oil company his son runs in a blind trust but it's hard to believe, you know, if he's saying he's not influenced by big oil because you're right, west virginia is a poor state and depending on oil companies, companies like the koch brothers have influence. do we need to root out the influence and get it out of politics all together, something like in the voting reform bill that died? >> without any question the campaign financing is the root of all evidence in the congress. it's very, very bad. we start...