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And over again. we have power and it's incumbent upon us to take that power. do i trust glenn greenwald, edward snowden to make that assessment? i'm not sure i do. >> i will say this. i trust them to the extent that i trust knowing things rather than not knowing them. and so i agree. there's no definitive word said about what exactly these programs are and how they operate. i'm happy to know more now than i did a few weeks ago. msnbc contributor goldie taylor, thank you so much. >> thank you. all right. guess who justice clarence thomas compared to slave holders and segregationists today? me...

He wrote a humdinger of a concurring opinion that basically compares anyone who supports affirmative action with the worst racists and white supremacists in our history. "slave holders argue that slavery was a positive good that civilized blacks and elevated them in every dimension of life. a century later segregationists similarly asserted that segregation was not only benign, but good for black students. the university's professed food good intentions cannot excuse its outright racial discrimination any more than such intentions justified the now denounced arguments of slave holders and segr...

Basically compares anyone who supports affirmative action with the worst racists and white supremacists in our history. "slave holders argue that slavery was a positive good that civilized blacks and elevated them in every dimension of life. a century later segregationists similarly asserted that segregation was not only benign, but good for black students. the university's professed food intentions cannot excuse its outright racial discrimination any more than such intentions justified the now denounced arguments of slave holders and segregationists." so while today was not the day in which t...

It's a very jarring, striking analogy. and justice john paul stevens has completely rentinged the idea that there is a moral and constitutional equivalence between affirmative action and slavery and segregation. >> not only did he make that statement, since you talk about the past, clarence thomas in the past has said things about affirmative action. in 1983, when he was the chairman of equal employment opportunity commission, in a speech to his staff, clarence thomas said that the laws of affirmative action were of, quote, paramount importance to him. but for them, god only knows where i woul...

Professed good intentions cannot excuse its outright racial discrimination anymore than such intentions justified the now denounced arguments of slave holders and segregationism. judge clarence thomas compared people that supported affirmative action to slave holders and segregationists, jeff. >> he did. it's a remarkable opinion, and it's not the first time he has made this comparison. in previous decisions he said i believe there is a moral and constitutional equivalent because the arguments for affirmative action and the arguments for slavery and segregation. what does he mean by this? he s...