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More of an issue of diversity. you know, the episcopal church has lost about 30% of its manipulat membership over te politics are you using politics to form your faith or faith to form your politics? that's what it's been about. they have tried to be discerning. rec ter of the church, noel york simmons wrote to the congregation and she said spirit of wisdom may save us from all false choices. they are trying to use their faith in a way, burr the problem is that is this more of a political ideology or is this about the faith issue? and then you want to look at your ministries. look at your mini...

Point, shannon. see my griffin lie for us from the pentagon. thank you so much. we want to introduce you to a segment called "night court." i think it will be a regular part of the show. a brand-new segment of topics that we present to you, the jury. first off, a virginia church is going to remove a plaque honoring america's first president, george washington. the church says the plot, which is on a pew where washington once sat with his family, is not acceptable to all worshipers because george washington was a slave owner. charlie heard, opinion editor and columnist for "the washington times...

Say they want to have a new meeting with owners, this one they want to have collin kaepernick included in. heather: well, he was invited to the last one from what i understand. he just didn't show. all right. so, george washington's church, he attended this church for two decades but they plan to rip out his memorial because they think it may make some of the worshipers feel unsafe? >> that's right. if you remember, this is something that the president expressed concern might happen. take a listen. >> george washington was a slave owner. was george washington a slave owner? so, will george was...

History. >> listen, i saw this had i known i was horrified as every has iran should be, are we going to erase the father of our country? when i read the church's statement on the matter, it was reasoned and a lesson about the george washington carver. it was about keeping the church itself, making sure they were both on there, but it does give us the opportunity to say how far are we pushing this? i take this personally. i write children's books for better euros for my own kids. when i see george washington, and someone tells me he's a slave owner. i say if you want someone perfect, only god's...

And colin kaepernick oscars so white era. they want to be in a more comfortable environment. and then it's campus violence. why do i want to spend $60,000 a year to go on a campus where people are going to spray paint trump on my dorm, where they're going to deface black fraternity houses. who wants to spend all that money in a dorm named after a slave owner? there's a lot of things that have come to the forein the last two years. >> as we see polarization in society increase, particularly since the election of president trump, we see people sort of wanting to go where their comfort zone is an...