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Government shutdown, and the raising of the debt ceiling, these twin manufactured, unnecessary political crises, whatever is happening around them is happening right now. and where this all leads, late tonight or tomorrow or very soon after that is unclear, to say the least. and that is why we have joining us now, luke russert, whose whole professional life revolves around this story now and forever more. luke, thanks for being here. >> yes, eat, live, and sleep it, whole nine yards. quite a day, huh? >> it's been hard to tell what's wishful thinking and what is actual progress. i know, luke, ...

Just. interesting, of course, because donald trump honed in repeatedly on that throughout the campaign. saying he did not believe it was just to go into iraq. saying he had repeatedly condemned it. when we know, of course, he didn't always have that view. but thomas bosert spoke out quite definitively about it in that op-ed but obviously not an issue now that donald trump has named him to be assistant to the president for homeland security and counterterrorism. that announcement coming this morning, kate. >> interesting they're elevating the level and import of that post. it will be interestin...