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Town. i'm surprised also that there's a u.s. base on the outskirts of the town. we went and drove right by that. the u.s. flag flying. there is a significant u.s. presence. i'm surprised we haven't seen anything in terms of a brazen attack like this. i'm not surprised. i can tell you the city was very tense when we visited. we have been hearing from kurdish officials there are gist sleeper cells. nowhere near the front lines but it doesn't plattematter. there are people working within their networks lurking in these towns. >> and obviously we don't flow who carried out this who rifrho attack. ...

Even in these so-called liberated areas in northern syria. there is a sense that the dangers are still very real, that isis sleeper cells are still here and that they're still able to launch an attack like this. this is certainly the worst attack we've seen in quite some time. you just saw in that video, a massive explosion. we know that u.s. servicemen were killed in that explosion and we don't know how many and we don't know what they were doing there and certainly based on our experience, john, it is fair to say there is a significant u.s. military presence in the town of manbij, john. >> w...

Forces is that with the u.s. withdrawal, you're creating a power vacuum. when you do that, that invites groups like isis to reconstitute, to regroup and to launch some kind of an insurgency to try to take back some of the power. >> and precise ly on that point and your point a second ago about the sleeper cells, juxtapose that with what the vice president said just this morni morning. >> we are bringing our troops home. the caliphate has crumbled and isis has been defeated. >> as we mentioned, this is a month after the president declared on twitter that the u.s. has beaten b isis badly. how do...

Power vacuum and guess who thrives in a power vacuum? it is, of course, isis. we were down by the front lines today closer to the iraqi border, john, and this is what we're seeing from commanders. we have a few more villagers to go before we take all of the territory that isis originally had, but what we can't do is get into the minds of the people who are left behind. we can't understand who exactly is loyal to isis and who is a member of the sleeper cells. we can't change the mentality of the people who have been living under isis for many years and by the way, what are these people going ho...

With towns like manbij is even when you clear them out, even when you talk back the territory, it is very difficult to deal with sleeper cells. we have been hearing from a number of commanders, kurdish commanders and others, that this is the problem they're facing now on the ground in a lot of territory that they currently hold. the difficulty of trying to deal with the mentality of the people trying to root out those isis sleeper cells that tell exist there. manbij is a town of 100,000 people. it's a large town. we were just by this explosion two days ago. there's a large market there. that m...