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multiple people at this hour had been shot. we can report that four people have been killed. in addition to those four, people the gavitt himself is also reportedly dead. . they did just identify the suspect, it is red as a black will around the ages of 35 to 40. they say he just before we got to the air here is a part of it we were hearing shots in the building right now we have four civilians and avoid shooter that is dead. officers have not been interviewed but we are certain that is a self inflicted gunshot wound. . >> i don't have to remind you that this incident comes just eigh...

police arrived at the seed, they arrive to the senate floor where they had gunshots. multiple people at this hour had been shot. we can report that four people have been killed. in addition to those four, people the gavitt himself is also reportedly dead. . they did just identify the suspect, it is red as a black will around the ages of 35 to 40. they say he just before we got to the air here is a part of it we were hearing shots in the building right now we have four civilians and avoid shooter that is dead. officers have not been interviewed but we are certain that is a self inflic...

Strong legislation that is going to help us move through this issue. but, these ongoing slick slogans, and innuendos around what, they think, will be hardened targets, we can harden them, but we'll have to go beyond. we're a free society, people will come and go, in and out. so, you can't harden that too much. >> very quickly, the police, just a short while ago, we're making a point to tell us, there was a three minute response time, given the fact that this country has been consumed with the uvalde texas shooting, and the police response in that situation. what do you make of this information...

And it is the institutions that you will not be able to harden. i think, when people make those statements, they are not thinking very deeply, or very intentionally, really, as to how we address this issue. we can no longer think that, somehow, we just harden a target out of school, and somehow, are issues around the violent use of weapons will go away. it is not. we will have to go a lot deeper than that, and think a lot deeper. because, what we have been doing, in the past, clearly, is not working. even the data suggests having more police and school does not change the dynamic of the school...