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When we raised john bolton's counsel, the same for dr. kupperman, the answer was, you serve us with a subpoena and we will sue you, too. we knew, based on the mcgahn litigation it would take years to force john bolton to testify. i would point out because this is an essential point to underscore, as the president's lawyers say, they didn't try hard enough to get john bolton or they should have subpoenaed john bolton. that's what they're telling you. let me show you what they're telling the court in the mcgahn litigation, if we could pull up slide number 39. this is the president's lawyers in c...

Characterizing here, now, is part of another matter that is being handled by the department of justice. >> but you did not establish any conspiracy, much less a well-developed one? >> again, i pass on answering that question. >> the special counsel did not charge carter page with anything, correct? >> special counsel did not. >> all right. my time is expired. i yield back. >> director mueller, i would like to turn your attention to the june 9th, 2016, trump tower meeting. slide two, which should be on the screen now, is part of an email chain between don junior -- donald trump jr. and a public...

Here, now, is part of another matter that is being handled by the department of justice. >> but you did not establish any conspiracy, much less a well-developed one? >> again, i pass on answering that question. >> the special counsel did not charge carter page or anything, correct? >> the special counsel did not. >> my time is expired. i yield back. >> miss sewall? >> i would like to direct your attention to the 2016 trump tower meeting. slide two, which should be on the screen now, as part of an email chain between don jr. -- dumb trump jr. and a publicist representing the son of a russian ol...