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Effectively asserted a privilege or whether he was waiting perhaps for the president to release him from being able to describe the contents of their conversation. >> and jill wine banks, over to you. do you concur with jeremy bash that none of this will fly if the attorney general gets called before mueller because the conditions will be different and he won't be able to rest his case and say sorry that's a privileged conversation with the president? >> absolutely i agree, there is no way he could get away with that. if this was actually asserted as executive privilege, it would go to court. ...

Citing instead? >> that's right. so in this particular case, and this pertains to in particular conversations -- a conversation that sessions apparently had with the president about the firing of the fbi director. so it really is a very important specific question. the attorney general was a little bit unclear. on one hand he said that he was not able to assert the privilege. he said that the president had not actually asserted the privilege. and so then he seemed to be referring to other department of justice privileges which sometimes can include the attorney sln client privilege. but that u...

Won't sessions talk about their conversations. and what was this rule was he was citing today. joining us now to talk about the law in all of this, jill wine banks one of the special prosecutors during the watergate scandal. former general counsel to the united states army. and carry cordero, a former counsel at the office of the director of national intel jepsz. carry, after your time at d.o.j., who is this rule he's citing. >> attorney general sessions was referring to executive privilege, which is a privilege that the president can assert regarding communications with his senior advisors. s...