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Interesting decision apparently three of them did know that this information was at least purported to come from the russian government. the first reaction to that is if any foreign government tries to come here and provide information on your opponent of any stripe, i don't care what party you are, what your philosophical bent is, the first call ought to be to the fbi. that didn't happen. it is a little bit concerning that their judgment allowed them to go and sit in the meeting. they were not consistent in disclosing and the meeting and who was in it and what was talked about in the meeting....

Organized enough to do that. we are talking about some type of conspiracy that people want to put together. when you see the way these stories come out t would have be been difficult for a conspiracy to be pulled off. they are guilty of sloppiness. they didn't keep the proper record. to jump to the conclusion that something illegal happened. don junior and jared kushner said they are willing to testify. we will wait until that comes out and then we can make some type of conclusion out of it? >> so, mustafa, your conclusion? >> the argument mike is happening is that the president of the united ...

Somebody's security clearance and you hold them. you remove them away from intelligence information. that's standard operating process. this notion that these people just didn't know what they were doing. they got up really high into presidential politics. they didn't know what was going on. this russian stuff is nothing. on the one hand, you are saying you don't know what they are doing. on the other hand, you are making the argument that there was no russian collusion. maybe they were pawns of the russian government and they didn't know it, because they were pawns of the russian government. ...

Said islet let us at the table bring our best practices together. let us come to the table. we will work with anybody. we have to make sure we get this right on health care. i can't, as a governor, support a plan that costs $1.4 billion to my budget over the next seven years and literally thousands and thousands of virginians lose health care coverage. i can't. i have to fight for my citizens. everybody is entitled to health care. it is a right g sl y. it is a right. >> i want to play a little clip of something you said. >> we want to work together on health care so that we can provide the bes...

When you are not paying attention. those are two different realities. for charles to jump to that conclusion is pretty extreme. it is clear that the russian government was trying to get involved in our politics. >> wouldn't that be the inference. if you were to receive an e-mail, that would infer we russians may have something against your opponent wouldn't you know that it was an adversary and this is a threat to democracy. >> keep in mind that the story of russians involving themselves in the election came after this. if at this time it wasn't clear there wasn't a lot of knowledge that there...