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Action in iraq, you're not going to see most members -- the libertarian part of the party is not there. that means the leadership is not there, either, beyond that small mccain/graham, the neocons from the bush administration have been precise on what they want to see. >> and perry, you could not be more right. there's not one single conservative person that wants to be on the ground in iraq. harry bacon, thanks so much for being on the show. >> thanks, guys. appreciate it. up next, more on that breaking news we just mentioned. congressman kevin mccarthy is the new gop house leader. we'll di...

Republican party and all of their criticism and how they think should be be more involved even as they fail to be particularly specific. but we haven't heard much from this rising more libertarian wing that we've heard a lot about and talked a lot about and is this a new direction for the gop. what are they saying? what are they thinking? where had are they falling on this conflict? >> i think graham and mccain are consistent. they want more intervention, period. they want to inner convenient in syria more, inter convenient in iraq more a. not only that, but from the john boehners even. there'...

There's no good option, nobody wants to be on the record about this thing. >> this is a big surprise. never would i think, if you think back ten years, you see john bolton, doug feiss, paul wolfowitz on television attacking somebody about iraq. dick cheney, of course. i should have mentioned him. but you listen, like ridi said, rubio, cruz, not a lot of clear cut statements beyond this is going wrong, obama is not handling it well. i think that's where they're going to say. and i think even hillary clinton has been very careful in what she said, as well. this is a complicated situation. when y...