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finney and ron brownstein. great to have you guys here. let's start with the senate debate, the john fetterman and mehmet oz debate that just happened tonight, and of course crime came up. it's been a big issue in that race. so let's hear their exchange. >> i'm the only person on this stage right now that has -- is successful about pushing back against gun violence and being the community more safe. all he has done is just put a plan up on his website in the last 24 hours. he has no experience. he has never made any attempt to try to address crime. >> the fraternal order of police fr...

mehmet oz finds himself down double digits to john fetterman. but lieutenant governor fetterman suffered a stroke. he had to take weeks off the trail. but the lead was so big they thought they could ride it out, stay in the basement and ride it out. but oz continued to campaign. >> telling you that you are not fit to be serve. send us back to new jersey. send me to dv. >> i always thought it was pretty empathetic. emphatic. i am sorry, empathetic. brian: the guy is weak on crime and admits it. >> i'm effective on crime. and i believe in second chances. and i have one on that record. ...

mehmet oz finds himself down double digits to john fetterman. but lieutenant governor fetterman suffered a stroke. he had to take weeks off the trail. but the lead was so big they thought they could ride it out, stay in the basement and ride it out. but oz continued to campaign. >> telling you that you are not fit to be serve. send us back to new jersey. send me to dv. >> i always thought it was pretty empathetic. emphatic. i am sorry, empathetic. brian: the guy is weak on crime and admits it. >> i'm effective on crime. and i believe in second chances. and i have one on that record. ...

mehmet oz finds himself down double digits to john fetterman. but lieutenant governor fetterman suffered a stroke. he had to take weeks off the trail. but the lead was so big they thought they could ride it out, stay in the basement and ride it out. but oz continued to campaign. >> telling you that you are not fit to be serve. send us back to new jersey. send me to dv. >> i always thought it was pretty empathetic. emphatic. i am sorry, empathetic. brian: the guy is weak on crime and admits it. >> i'm effective on crime. and i believe in second chances. and i have one on that record. ...

mehmet oz finds himself down double digits to john fetterman. but lieutenant governor fetterman suffered a stroke. he had to take weeks off the trail. but the lead was so big they thought they could ride it out, stay in the basement and ride it out. but oz continued to campaign. >> telling you that you are not fit to be serve. send us back to new jersey. send me to dv. >> i always thought it was pretty empathetic. emphatic. i am sorry, empathetic. brian: the guy is weak on crime and admits it. >> i'm effective on crime. and i believe in second chances. and i have one on that record. ...