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Serious investigation. i think the question now, you know, within the kingdom and the news reports about what's happening in the kingdom is to what extent can the sort of -- the prince who is went a little bit too far their time possibly sort of miscalculated or misjudged what the reaction would be, might be isolated by the king or there might be changes. the challenge he has and we've seen this in latin american countries and other places is he tells a bunch of guys to go do something. we have to assume that's what he did, to kill khashoggi. he then turns on them because he can't face the hea...

Republican democratic party and more in chairman of the party being chief of staff. it's curious. >> you talked eight years ago about how you said barack obama was conservative with a small c. conservative the way buckley said looks at the world as it is and not as we want it to be. you look at donald trump and you look at infrastructure, he's talking about big infrastructure plan with schumer and pelosi. he's talking about bringing our troops back home and ending 15 years of war. and then on obamacare -- again, these are three things republicans are going to hate which i've been telling peopl...

Want anybody to be off health care coverage for a day. that suggests at least in that case again somebody that is a conservative with a small c. >> the great question, which we also saw in the campaign, not day-to-day but half hour to half hour is going to be the tension between his showmanship and stability, right? how much -- how radical is he? how much does his rhetoric actually track with what he wants to do in terms of reality? does he even know is a good question. sometimes you get the impression and someone pointed this out during the campaign where he would read a speech on the telepro...

>> she is not somebody out her whole life looking for a case. she lived privately, closeted almost her entire life. and this struggle came upon her because of a private matter that she never intended to turn into a public fight. she made it into a public fight because she had to. but this is not something she sought out. and i think that mirrors this overall case within this overall issue within the gay rights struggle. >> that's right. >> the struggle to get married is not the most revolutionary idea. it's a very traditional movement. i was on the left side of the gay movement coming up in th...

Gore side. all the conseratives voted for the bush side. george w. bush became president. the court was so self-conscious about the spur riness that the ruling said it could not be cited in future cases. it was not precedent. in other words, we're not making law here, we just want george w. bush to be president, okay. the bush v gore five-four decision probably did mortal damage that capitol justices would act in small c conservative ways. they were happy to take radical, lead action to depart from legal pres dent as long as it achieved a political aim that they wanted. if that idea was an ent...