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Been a very part of that threat to the national security, and so i do think that they are more intertwined than we had thought before. you know, post-9/11, the goal of the fbi is to bring down the wall between criminal investigations and counterintelligence or counterterrorism investigations and to use all of the tools that they have for every case. so they no longer really think of it in those terms of black and white. i know some of the commentators out there who served in the justice department before 9/11, like rudy giuliani and others, always talk about the wall and the separation, but in...

>> and what are your constituents asking you to do because donald trump claims that the constituents that you're just talking about, that they went a wall, too, and that's what they want you to do. is that what they're asking you to do? >> my constituents for the most part are not in favor of the wall, but they want us to sit down and come to an agreement and get the government open again. they're tired of being used as pawns, being used as bargaining chips in a political battle that has nothing to do with their day-to-day lives and their jobs. >> and would you under any circumstances be willi...

We shouldn't have to not pay or bills because they can't be groan u grown up enough, mature enough to come up with a decision. >> one of the irs workers who protested. about 200 employees are being required to work without pay to process tax returns. the only democrat represents the state of kentucky in the house and the new chairman of the house budget committee. it's a lonely walk sometimes but thank you for joining me. >> absolutely. sdp >> let's talk about the shutdown and what the battle is really about. the president is digging. he's aiming to fulfill his signature campaign promise. the ...

Donald trump, two things he does, a letter he writes in which he insists on including russia as the cause for firing comey and then the interview with lester holt. how extraordinary is that that it is donald trump's own words essential that caused the fbi's suspicions to increase? >> yeah, my guess is they were very reluctant to open the investigation and consider him to be a target of the investigation because there is concern that the government will be perceived in a way that is partisan, and they want to do everything they can to stick to facts and law and not be anyone's puppet in terms o...

You know, i mean, i don't know -- i don't even know where to begin, right? you know, the national security of the united states has a lot to do with competent foreign policy. the president of the united states tweeted out that we were taking everybody, all of our troops out of syria in 30 days. the secretary of state and the national security adviser are saying something completely different. so we don't even have a foreign policy at this point that is consistent out of the white house. this president, of course, over the last two years has demonstrated that he has one concern and one concern ...