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You know, the national security of the united states has an awful lot to do with competent foreign policy. the president of the united states tweeted out that we were taking everybody, all of our troops out of syria in 30 days. the secretary of state and the national security adviser are saying something completely different. so we don't even have a foreign policy at this point that is consistent out of the white house. this president, of course, over the last two years, has demonstrated that he has one concern and one concern only. and that is how much of a big man he is. and how respected an...

About, they want a wall, too, and that's what they want you to do. is that what they're asking you to do? >> my constituents for the most part are not in favor of the wall, but they want us to sit down and come to an agreement and get the government open again. they're tired of being used as pawns, being used as bargaining chips in a political battle that has nothing to do with their day-to-day lives and their jobs. >> and would you under any circumstances be willing to vote for money for a wall that we should add mexico was supposed to pay for in order to reopen the government? >> well, we in...

Undone. tonight, the fda is curtailing food inspections. clean-ups at federal superfund sites have been suspended, work at federal immigration courts has stopped making already terrible backlogs worse. funding for the entire federal court system is about to run out. and the federal reserve may not be able to forecast our economy. here's a terrifying headline for you. airline safety is eroding as shutdown drags on. the miami airport is shutting down an entire terminal because they don't have enough tsa agents to staff it. shutdown threatens national security. day 21 and counting. joining us i...

Individuals. the difference here is that the potential obstruction could have been on a national security investigation, one that impacted the entire country. this is not just on a bank robbery. this is not just on a regular crime that they were looking at. this was the attack on the election. >> absolutely. and another piece at the end of the piece that is also another extraordinary thing a lot of us will remember, the oval office meeting in which donald trump invites russian officials to the oval office shortly after he fired mr. comey, and that, too, became a part of this inquiry. >> correc...

Security concern. the times tonight also reports getting some access to the testimony of the top lawyer at the fbi at the time. fbi general counsel james baker. and then, from mr. baker's house testimony, quote, not only would it be an issue of obstructing an investigation, but the obstruction itself would hurt our ability to figure out what the russians had done. and that is what would be a threat to national security, mr. baker said. in his testimony, portions of which were read to "the new york times." wow. what a story. joining us now is "new york times" reporter michael schmidt, part of a...